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Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:08 pm
by Lamaddict
MarkH wrote:Hey now... I'm not on the East Coast :x
You are probably the best in the US ;)

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:40 pm
by scootRS.com
Speed Demon wrote:If it is from Beedspeed then it is unlikely to be a ScootRS one because I believe they fell out (can't imagine how that might happen ;) )
Again? Why a "journalist" like Sticky constantly puts out petty lies and false rumours about companies is baffling. You never know anymore if what Sticky says is reliable or just more personal bias and revenge against others.

We didn't fall out with Beedspeed and cause them to sell a copy of our disc, as Sticky pretends. Beedspeed wanted the lowest priced items and insisted on Chinese copy hydraulics on disc kits, but we said we would not supply those, it was better to pay a little more for the higher quality of Nissin hydraulics. They disagreed and sourced sand cast copies of our kit with the Chinese hydraulics and began selling those along with other copies. We thought that approach was shortsighted so we chose not to accept any more orders from them and to focus on other partnerships. Different approaches.

So, a foreign company took a stance years ago in favour of quality against short-term UK shop sales, yet all Sticky can think to do is start another false rumour pretending the foreigners are troublemakers. Such pettiness really discredits Sticky. We hope one day he accepts being occasionally criticized for his approach and returns to posting only trustworthy facts.
adriang wrote:I reckon that both Saigon Scooters and ScootRS get them from the same supplier (Sterling perhaps).
Oh, good god, no. "Sterling" is a local Vietnamese guy and not, suffice to say, a supplier of anything to anyone local who has been in the business for years. Just some overseas.

Many years back we first secured a supply of Nissin hydraulics direct from the source and have always bought direct. Not sure what others do.

On a related note, we sometimes hear of posts insisting there can only be one real supplier of most things in Vietnam. There are many, even of major items.

>>more so the much debated Sterling v's Scootrs quality issue

It's quite simple really: sand cast copy vs high-pressure cast original with other refinements.

The father of the guy who ran scooters-rock used to buy the copies but had a few crack apart on customers, then the son started scooters-rock and approached us for the high-pressure cast originals because of that. You might ask an unbiased UK source with experience like that. He's on ebay now, http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/bitsy1958/

Cheers.

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:44 pm
by RICSPEED
i thought sticky had said yours were the best ... :?:

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:51 pm
by Diablo
scootRS.com wrote:
Speed Demon wrote:If it is from Beedspeed then it is unlikely to be a ScootRS one because I believe they fell out (can't imagine how that might happen ;) )
Again? Why a "journalist" like Sticky constantly puts out petty lies and false rumours about companies is baffling. You never know anymore if what Sticky says is reliable or just more personal bias and revenge against others.

We didn't fall out with Beedspeed and cause them to sell a copy of our disc, as Sticky pretends. Beedspeed wanted the lowest priced items and insisted on Chinese copy hydraulics on disc kits, but we said we would not supply those, it was better to pay a little more for the higher quality of Nissin hydraulics. They disagreed and sourced sand cast copies of our kit with the Chinese hydraulics and began selling those along with other copies. We thought that approach was shortsighted so we chose not to accept any more orders from them and to focus on other partnerships. Different approaches.

So, a foreign company took a stance years ago in favour of quality against short-term UK shop sales, yet all Sticky can think to do is start another false rumour pretending the foreigners are troublemakers. Such pettiness really discredits Sticky. We hope one day he accepts being occasionally criticized for his approach and returns to posting only trustworthy facts.
adriang wrote:I reckon that both Saigon Scooters and ScootRS get them from the same supplier (Sterling perhaps).
Oh, good god, no. "Sterling" is a local Vietnamese guy and not, suffice to say, a supplier of anything to anyone local who has been in the business for years. Just some overseas.

Many years back we first secured a supply of Nissin hydraulics direct from the source and have always bought direct. Not sure what others do.

On a related note, we sometimes hear of posts insisting there can only be one real supplier of most things in Vietnam. There are many, even of major items.

>>more so the much debated Sterling v's Scootrs quality issue

It's quite simple really: sand cast copy vs high-pressure cast original with other refinements.

The father of the guy who ran scooters-rock used to buy the copies but had a few crack apart on customers, then the son started scooters-rock and approached us for the high-pressure cast originals because of that. You might ask an unbiased UK source with experience like that. He's on ebay now, http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/bitsy1958/

Cheers.
So basically you fell out with Beedspeed-so what. Are you seriously telling me your hard to fall out with Randall?
If your meglamania had allowed you to read and digest the rest of the text you would have seen what we all did. That Mr I'm so Biased Sticky has actually recommended people buy brake products with genuine Nissin parts ie yours you moron.
Randall why don't you just bugger off somewhere else you give me the creeps monitoring our forum in case someone says something bad about you.
Personally I think your brakes are good you though are a tw@7.

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:18 pm
by soulsurfer
:lol: couldn't have put it better myself Al.
Sticky comes on and helps people, isn't it time Randall came on and helped other for a change, including himself?

Oh and BTW Scooters Rock? You can't be serious? :roll:

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:48 pm
by RICSPEED
missed a trick there didn't he :roll:

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:21 am
by shocky
soulsurfer wrote::lol:

Oh and BTW Scooters Rock? You can't be serious? :roll:
:lol:

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:45 pm
by CPH Lambretta
Randall you are having a laugh! You get pissed off because Sticky makes a comment about you falling out with Beedspeed.
Then you write a long description of exactly that: you fell out with Beedspeed and now don't do business with them any more.
And yes you are very easy to fall out with, you rant on several different forums/your own website/twitter and really get peoples backs up ,your not doing yourself any favours with all this crap.
Better just to shut up and let your products speak for themselves (some of which I think are good and some shite).
Useing Scooters Rock as a referance is not a good idea, with their reputation.

Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:48 pm
by Bilko
Randall has been reading again....





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Re: Familiar with this disk brake?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:03 pm
by rbgaz
lol y do u lot bother to reply to this geezer ? he just has a laugh winding u lot up , his stuff will always sell as its pretty good most of the time unlike some uk dealers who sell ill fitting disturbingly badly made shite that looks like its been put together by a 4 year old ting tong kid with hes teeth lol