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Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:44 pm
by soulsurfer
sydduckett wrote:This is a no brainer go for the PM and steer clear of Scootrs, there anti dive doesnt even have bushes.....cowboys and all that.
If you want antidive and you want a more standard look, I'd go for the LTH or Worb types, they are very good quality, the Worb uses the same caliper as the PM, but can be expensive and you could change the pistons or calliper easily on the LTH if you wish, but would appear to be unnecessary ;)

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:06 pm
by cezeta
i have a scoot rs one with taffy fork springs and bgm dampers and i dont notice any diving to warrent anti dive.

in fact if im heavy breaking ill make it dive as much as i can to put the weight over the front wheel.

i can lock up or make the tyre squeel with the scoot rs and hidden master cylinder no problem.

the scoot rs one also resembles a lambretta wheel, im not a fan of the ford xr3 i pepperpot designs. i cant stand the chinese moped cast wheel look either.

so its more about the style you prefer as they are all good stoppers and a zillian times better than any standard set up

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:17 pm
by soulsurfer
cezeta wrote: im not a fan of the ford xr3 i pepperpot designs.
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Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:01 pm
by cezeta
soulsurfer wrote:
cezeta wrote: im not a fan of the ford xr3 i pepperpot designs.
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exactly.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:33 am
by corrado
Sorry, but that's an Alfa Cloverleaf design, not an Escort XR3i.

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:55 am
by rbgaz
sydduckett wrote:This is a no brainer go for the PM and steer clear of Scootrs, there anti dive doesnt even have bushes.....cowboys and all that.
thanks sef u calling me thick then ? lol i luv my scootrs anti dive disc dont care what people think of them or thier anti dive my scoot rides and brakes really nice p.s did u not say sef mine was the nicest front setup u had ever ridden on a lammy ? lmco !!

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:22 am
by red ghost
soulsurfer wrote:The Worb "Dirty Sanchez", made by MMW, uses the same caliper as PM
http://www.mmw.net/band.jsp

? 8-)

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:48 pm
by LambrettaSX
soulsurfer wrote:Hi Marco,
It was well publicised on the forums some years ago of the same calipers having pistons siezing in the early ScootRS ones and I believe various people then made stainless steel pistons to fix the problem. This was why ScootRS changed to Nissin, no offence but they've sold many many of their brakes and I know they're very reluctant to change design.
The caliper we use has nothing to do with the early ScootRS ones. There are many manufacturers that copy the Nissin design. We get these from a huge company that is not located in Vietnam. So please don't compare chalk to cheese.

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:54 pm
by LambrettaSX
cezeta wrote:i have a scoot rs one with taffy fork springs and bgm dampers and i dont notice any diving to warrent anti dive.

in fact if im heavy breaking ill make it dive as much as i can to put the weight over the front wheel.
The advantage of the anti-dive system is that you still can use the soft and comfortable original springs with a powerful disc brake and it does not dive to the blocks. With the correct setting of the anti-dive link you still can allow a little diving for the feeling. It is also a safety feature as with too hard springs the front wheel can easily loose grip over bumps.

You can also get the weight over the front wheel with an anti-dive system during braking as you can let it still dive normally with the correct setting.

Re: Best hydraulic disc brake.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:49 am
by cezeta
LambrettaSX wrote:
cezeta wrote:i have a scoot rs one with taffy fork springs and bgm dampers and i dont notice any diving to warrent anti dive.

in fact if im heavy breaking ill make it dive as much as i can to put the weight over the front wheel.
The advantage of the anti-dive system is that you still can use the soft and comfortable original springs with a powerful disc brake and it does not dive to the blocks. With the correct setting of the anti-dive link you still can allow a little diving for the feeling. It is also a safety feature as with too hard springs the front wheel can easily loose grip over bumps.

You can also get the weight over the front wheel with an anti-dive system during braking as you can let it still dive normally with the correct setting.
i suppose i would have to ride two back to back to properly compare but on sports bikes i have always backed it right off as i never liked it.

i have to be honest and say my standard jet 200 handles way better than my keved up ts1 with all the goodies bolted on. i think sometimes my money would have been better spent learing to ride well doing track days ect