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We was discussing the name last night until the usual suspects thought they was cleaver and brought it down to gutter level. So a no to that one. BLOA was owned by the concessionaires, not owned by the LCGB, FACT. Mike's gift was actually given to a committee member of the LCGB who is a member of BLOA. FACT. For those that know him know, for those that don't, don't. Simple.
Nic- Having a little giggle to myself today about the ebay story, I had to think hard thou. Then it struck me, you are on about Johnny Lamdildo aka the scooterist leech. God that was funny, I can't believe he is still going on about that. I'll have to dig them out and put them back on ebay again.Still laughing now... As for the banner, no idea until to let me know more about it. The rest of my 18 dealings are a complete mystery. I very rarely sale things of memorabilia.

Gavin J Frankland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:12 am I don't get the Facebook bloa. Is this another club? I've read it a few times on here, it just BLOA. The shield is under copyright as you know so there's nothing dodgy there, quite official really. The lion will never happen, Lambretta licensing owns that.

Yeah, you know that now after the attempt at trying to get it I suppose.

corrado wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:50 am Look, I'm sick of seeing threads that I have no interest in whatsoever .........................................


........ so can someone please remove the Vespa sections.

Oh my god, if only!!

Timbo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:33 am

Gavin J Frankland wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:46 pm Don't lower yourself nic

He’s doing all that very well. His public rant on someone he regarded as a good friend, because they had different views on this issue, was nothing short of shameful.

Yeah cos you're a moral authority all right.

Gavin J Frankland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:38 am There have been a few hinding behind a fictitious name thinking they can't been seen.

What, like you have?

Gavin J Frankland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:57 pm I seriously think nic has issues.

Well yeah, saying that deflects from you, nice try.

It's a famous airfield that was used to film the Battle of Britain from.

No it wasn't, more bollox.

I swear you are the scootering equivalent of Donald Trump.

steveg wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:16 pm

eden wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:58 pm
The first Derby 150 was a success but only because Steve Grant did all the work himself.

Not true, and please never use me to illustrate any point you have to make

Thanks Gavin,

To summarise then people.

1. Gavins assertion is that BLOA was owned by Lambretta concessionaires ( business and importer of the Lambretta).
2. Gavins assertion is that the BLOA name was not owned by the LCGB.
3. Mike Karslakes gift of the 'right to use the Bloa name & logo) was given to an (I'm presuming now -ex?) member of the committee rather than to the LCGB as a whole.
4. This (ex?) member of the committee is now a member of Gavins group.


Gavin,
1. is perfectly correct to my understanding.
2. is probably the moot point of the issue -LCGB assert they have the exclusive right to use the name since BLOA was the forerunner to the LCGB, Gavin asserts the name was abandoned and unused and therefore 'up for grabs'.
3. Unless you can provide evidence that Mikes gift was given to an individual rather than the LCGB I will have to remind persons reading this thread that the LCGB have a letter from Mike using the words 'the club has exclusive rights to use them'....on it -the letter doesn't mention any individual, it is quite clear the letter is the the club -the LCGB.
4. If point 3 cannot be proven point 4 is well.... pointless really.


What IS the damn point of making this assertion when you've seen the LCGBs evidence.
This does your case no good at all.

I'm ignoring the rest of your post since, whilst, I am a friend of the person you've said has joined you, I haven't a clue (and more importantly no one else reading this thread will and no one cares either in all probability) about the other banter you're swapping with Nic here, so we'll forget it since it isn't at all important and we don't want anyone accused of whataboutery or twaddle to muddy waters do we?

Eden,

I'm sorry you feel I'm not being accurate. Let me try to respond as best I can.

1) I don't know how much money Lincoln made or lost, my apologies. My understanding, and I am happy to be corrected, is that the first Lincoln national event was a huge success (I recall Scootering being ecstatic about it). I too attended and loved it.

My guess is that it prompted the committee to organise a second one which wasn't as well-supported. I didn't attend myself: I was working shifts at the time. That said, I don't judge rallies to be a success solely by whether they make money. Many do, some don't - at first. It's the atmosphere that counts for me. If I'm in the company of good friends I have a good time.

2) South Downs was initially organised by the LCGB for several years (2011/2012/2013) and then it was discontinued. A few years later it was revived by a neighbouring club of ours, Solent Cougars. The LCGB made it a signing on event at the request of Solent Cougars. You need to ask Solent Cougars whether they feel that the LCGB making it a signing on event has helped them. But see my response, as set out in 4) below.

3) I wasn't there so I won't comment on the Derby 150, other than to say Granty will probably be flattered by your endorsement.

4) You ask what LCGB support means in practice. It's hard to tell of course. You clearly feel it has no value at all. My direct experience is different. It think it can add significantly to the attendance at a smaller club event.

In our case, New Forest SC organised its own rally three years in a row (2011-2012-2013). They were all signing on events. The first one lost money (as per point 1 above) but most people had a great time. So we decided to do it again. The other two times it was a financial success and up to 250 people attended each time, possibly more.

Each time, the rally received a write-up in Jet Set, both as a "go-to" before the event and a report afterwards, as well as on its website and in the calendars of many clubs which publish the LCGB list of signing-on events. Our Club felt that helped with our publicity for the event.

The signing-on sheets for 2011 (available in the Club Championship Archive on the LCGB website) show that 91 LCGB members rode to the event, some of whom had travelled up to 370 miles to be there. I know that many non-LCGB members in New Forest SC were amazed at the commitment and support shown by LCGB riders to our event.

I haven't looked at the figures for 2012 and 2013, but I would estimate that well in excess of 100 of those who rode to each of the two rallies were LCGB members. Feel free to go and check yourself, it's all still there. If I'm right, by any definition that's a huge proportion of members attending a scooter rally, as I'm sure you will agree.

As with your event, all the money after expenses went to charity. It was all clearly evidenced and the local press reported on the donations. Thereafter, New Forest SC decided it didn't want to do it a fourth year.

Two local members decided that they did want to do a fourth one. They organised it at the same venue, at the same time of the year. They had a small team of people who worked very hard to make it a success. It was not an LCGB signing on event, so there is no record of LCGB attendees.

My recollection is that while there was still a fair amount of local support, it was about 10% down on previous years. That wouldn't have been too bad. But it attracted a lot less people nationally, probably in the region of about 80 to 100 less. There was no report in the press of a donation being made to charity. It has never been organised again.

I hope this answers your questions as factually as I am able. Do come back to me if you need any more information.

Gavin J Frankland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:20 pm Nic- Having a little giggle to myself today about the ebay story, I had to think hard thou. Then it struck me, you are on about .... God that was funny, I can't believe he is still going on about that. I'll have to dig them out and put them back on ebay again.Still laughing now... As for the banner, no idea until to let me know more about it. The rest of my 18 dealings are a complete mystery. I very rarely sale things of memorabilia.

Er, no.