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Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:29 am
by timexit17
IMHO I'm afraid neither party are going to come out of this shining white, although I hope that statements deliberately thrown in to muddy the issue and appear to attempt to smear certain parties cease pretty quickly as they will come back to bite those making them on the arse, scootering is a small community and sh177ing on your own doorstep isn't clever.

Look back through this thread at the number of 'statements' made, that when questioned, sometimes repeatedly, have not been substantiated one iota, or those that were hurriedly removed/edited (Yes, I noticed).

Answering points made/questions asked selectively is pretty obviously done deliberately when you see it after 12 pages, although I'll generously pass that over as not wanting to get into an argument perhaps?

We are all supposedly scooterists, the 2 groups are Lambretta enthusiasts, whether you agree with them or not, suspect their motives or disagree with the way they treat their members or govern their organisations.

It is no surprise that a section 5 appeal failed since it is, in effect, a 'strict liability' decision.
i.e. party A has a trademark that party B are attempting to register.
Therefore because party A don't have a trademark, there is no offence and therefore no legal grounds for an appeal to be upheld.

Take a look at the IPO site -there are literally hundreds of similar 'holes' where trademarks should be -'Lambretta Concessionaires' anyone?

A section 3 maybe more difficult to argue, although it's equally difficult to defend, hopefully the (quite obviously laughably exaggerated by certain parties) legal fees paid by the LCGB for advice contained advice to the LCGB committee that the first stage was likely to be a section 5 refusal for the reasons I've stated above.

I don't think it would be too difficult to get at least some sort of statement of intent from the committee at the AGM and I hope it's forthcoming.

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:08 pm
by Scooterdude
When and were is the above mentioned AGM?

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:17 pm
by timexit17
The AGM is open to all paid up LCGB members at:

Carlton Park Hotel, Rotherham.
Saturday 27th January.

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:38 pm
by EddieStone
I quite like the word Concessionaires. Difficult to say when you're drunk, but I'm considering it for a band name.

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:48 am
by Chris in Margate
Scooter politics !! Join us for a rideout Sunday 14th leaving Subway Ramsgate at 10.30 am with Thanet Scooter Rideouts proudly affiliated to the LCGB.
Isn't that what it's all about ?

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:35 pm
by coaster
Gav BLOA wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:22 pm I remember in 92 when LCGB and myself received letters from lambretta license, both the same letters. I went down to speak face to face with them. I come back with a car full of merchandise and they Lambretta had an order to make me 244 pairs of shoes. LCGB spent months fighting them spending £20k of members money and got there arse kicked. Kev got involved and drew up a deal. This my friends are the differences.
Interesting reading through this thread, I'm mostly unaware of the history and not even aware of who you are either although if I'm understanding this correctly, you are associated with the Lambretta clothing brand?But, are you saying that the LCGB is at fault because they are not as commercially aware as you?

I will be going to the AGM so would really like to understand all the angles

Ta
Colin

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:58 pm
by Timbo
You’ve read that wrong, he is not associated with the Lambretta clothing brand...😉

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by coaster
Timbo wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:58 pm You’ve read that wrong, he is not associated with the Lambretta clothing brand...😉
Thanks Tim, it was the bit about a boot full of merchandise and 240 pairs of shoes :?

LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:36 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
coaster wrote:
Timbo wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:58 pm You’ve read that wrong, he is not associated with the Lambretta clothing brand...Image
Thanks Tim, it was the bit about a boot full of merchandise and 240 pairs of shoes :?
I think Gav was trying to suggest, that both he and the LCGB received identical letters from Lambretta licensing...threatening legal action. But, whereas he went down and spoke to them face-to-face (and not only resolved the matter, but did business with them)...the LCGB instead spent a stack of cash on legal action, but to no avail.

Least that’s how I read it?

Re: LCGB - BLOA - Concessionaires......confusion

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:21 am
by Timbo
....and me....😀