Scooterotica

OUT.
This should have been made a poll on here just to save all the drum banging from both sides, there's enough on T.V and radio.

I'm still waiting for a debate of the issues, at all sound bite politics.

Taking control of our borders, sound fab, but how, what are we going to do differently that wil cure our problems? How will leaving the EU solve Calais Jungle problem? Do we really want to deport thousands of hard working tax payers and will our economy be able to deal with that, can we actually deport the ones who aren't working and claiming benefits?

Leaving will cost is a fortune, is that really true? why, what's going to really change. Will people really refuse to trade with us

We can deport nasty criminals by getting rid of the Human rights act, yes no more Nast foreign criminals sound fab, we have enough of our own. what does that really mean though, how will it affect my rights, will we actually get rid of it, will it actually work and is it really failing?

The money we save will go to the NHS:- where has that come from? How likely is it and if it happens how much or a difference will it actually make.

Neither sides arguments stack up, just the out arguments don't have any meat, it hasn't answered any of the simple questions I have.

The other thing that really worries me is that a lot of the issues that leaving the EU will supposedly solve, are nothing to do with the EU.

Meds wrote:I'm still waiting for a debate of the issues.

If the "masses" decided to debate it that would be a "massdebate" ..................which pretty much sums it all up.....

Meds wrote:I'm still waiting for a debate of the issues.

Have a look at this, I found it quite informative...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

Brexit the movie, it's propaganda,
It start by planting the seed that the EU is bad and undemocratic then reinforces it. Simple & clever.

If migrants are here they will not be deported.
They are allowed to stay.
Not sure under what ruling it is but they can definately stay from what i have read.

However we can then limit the amount who come in the future if we vote leave.

Interestingly

We now no longer see the jungle on the evening news.

Cameron said if the deal was not good fror britain he would leave....

Now apparently we risk world war 3, house prices dropping, mass unemployment and recession for the next few years.

I smell lots of cow poo coming from Cameron.

Who knows what will happen.

I wouldnt bet aginst Cameron getting an EU job in the future.

Robbie

wrecklessrobbie wrote:If migrants are here they will not be deported.
They are allowed to stay.
Not sure under what ruling it is but they can definately stay from what i have read.

I'm hoping for an islamic kristallnacht or something.

Meds wrote:Brexit the movie, it's propaganda,
It start by planting the seed that the EU is bad and undemocratic then reinforces it. Simple & clever.

and true

eden wrote:

Meds wrote:Brexit the movie, it's propaganda,
It start by planting the seed that the EU is bad and undemocratic then reinforces it. Simple & clever.

and true

And Cameron's daily apocalyptic prophecies on leaving the EU aren't propaganda?... just waiting for the "if you vote out your head will blow up" line.
The video does at least attempt to broach some of the issues people require answers to rather than spewing sensationalist doom hypotheses.

The truth is nobody knows what will happen either way but I would personally like to retain our democracy.

Godzilla will destroy the British isles if we leave. That's from a very good source inside No.10.