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Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:47 pm
by leebeduff
The backplate/speedo drive locate into the link but
aren't they different for disc /drum links?

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:56 pm
by soulsurfer
leebeduff wrote:The backplate/speedo drive locate into the link but
aren't they different for disc /drum links?
Not on the antidive...

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The plate doesn't locate, it would spin if it wasn't for the tie bar, that's how Lambretta antidive systems work, and you can see the speedo drive just sits under the link, it doesn't need to locate.

PS. Not sure whose scoot this is, hope the owner doesn't mind (Nigel?)

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:04 pm
by leebeduff
The plate is not attached to my backplate,it does move independantly.
The speedo housing locates into the link as per original.
I had to take it apart earlier to remove my tubeless wheels to get the
dodgy valves changed.
I've also been out to take another look just to make sure I'm not losing the
plot!
If I was clever enough I would post a pic but I'm not, my mrs can do it but
she's watching telly!!

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:23 pm
by sideout
soulsurfer wrote:
leebeduff wrote:The backplate/speedo drive locate into the link but
aren't they different for disc /drum links?
Not on the antidive...

Image

The plate doesn't locate, it would spin if it wasn't for the tie bar, that's how Lambretta antidive systems work, and you can see the speedo drive just sits under the link, it doesn't need to locate.

PS. Not sure whose scoot this is, hope the owner doesn't mind (Nigel?)
No problem Mike! :)

Personally, I don't find the anti-dive that bad. It made such a difference to this bike that I got the upgrade for my GP.

Nigel

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:00 pm
by sydduckett
Why do the SAS called there rucksacks bergens?.... ;)

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:14 pm
by red ghost
soulsurfer wrote:Just the anti-dive Mark. Although the Disc brake isn't perfect by any means, it's not bad and good value for money. I just think the antidive is crude and a joke as far as basic engineering goes.

Is it the way the pivot points are done that you don't like, with the stepped washer things?

So would you say with rose joints,bearings or bushes it would be an ok kit?

frank

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:51 pm
by Lazarus
sydduckett wrote:Why do the SAS called there rucksacks bergens?.... ;)
All troops use bergens I just thought that type were Danish etc more to the point why are Rucksacks called Rucksacks ?

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:34 am
by sideout
sydduckett wrote:Why do the SAS called there rucksacks bergens?.... ;)
Wiki: "from the manufacturer's name Bergens, used for a backpack supported by an external frame, usually associated with the British Armed Forces" :geek:
...and while I'm on that page: "The word rucksack is a German loanword mainly used in the UK and in the US Army: 'der Rücken' means 'the back' (the part of the body) in German. The name Rucksack is cognate with Danish Rygsæk, Norwegian Ryggsekk, Dutch Rugzak, Afrikaans Rugsak and Swedish Ryggsäck." :ugeek:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:50 am
by soulsurfer
red ghost wrote:
soulsurfer wrote:Just the anti-dive Mark. Although the Disc brake isn't perfect by any means, it's not bad and good value for money. I just think the antidive is crude and a joke as far as basic engineering goes.

Is it the way the pivot points are done that you don't like, with the stepped washer things?

So would you say with rose joints,bearings or bushes it would be an ok kit?

frank
Yes Frank, the idea of the bushes isn't correct for these as there will be sideways movement that needs to be considered. A lot of the movement on these antidive systems is small but it needs to be taken into account as it will affect the handling of the scooter, particularly if braking and turning at the same time.

The material of steel on steel is a bad idea, proper bronze or oilite bushes that are a slide fit together with spherical bearings is the better way to go, you can see this on the Worb/LTH ones, although the LTH has a cheap Taiwan copy caliper on it :-?

Re: Antidive upgrade scootRs brake.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:51 am
by soulsurfer
PS. Where did the Bergen thing come from? :-?