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Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:20 am
by mark
cs engineering has been doing this conversion for years (did my mk1 setup).
it is the first thing i ask for now when building a scoot. will try one of the new scootrs when i get a new scoot and better

Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:49 pm
by sideout
sideout wrote:I fitted the ScootRS Anti-dive on my SX today. I've not finished it yet, but I've got a day off work tomorrow so I'll report back.
I've had the previous version on my GP Mugello for a couple of years, so should be in a good position to make a direct comparison.
I can say that the new one fitted a lot better than the previous non-anti-dive one. For example, the holes in the switch housing lined up with those on the bars

and the wheel seems to sit centrally between the forks without any packing
No instructions or pictures supplied like it promised in their advert though
to be continued...........
Ok, I've fitted the disc and taken it out for a few miles. The anti-dive is adjustable depending where you attach the fork clamp. ScootRS recommend 175mm from the bottom of the forks, I set mine at 185mm (did I mention I didn't have any instructions? - more about this later

). Setting it higher like I have means the anti-dive is not as fierce.
It is a definite and noticable improvement on the previous version and I shall be converting my other one as soon as I can!
I had a prompt reply to my complaint about no instructions included, along the lines of "See our help page (Tech Help section) about that; you actually got the instructions the day you ordered

" They were right, I actually did. However, it was a link buried in my order confirmation email. My fault I know for not reading my mail properly

but for the sake of printing 9 sheets of instructions I would be inclined to stick them in the box with the kit after spending $400 with them!
And before any bleeding heart hippy posts about saving the planet by not printing a few sheets of instructions, this was flown halfway around the world after I failed to track one down in the UK (thanks for your efforts on that score Martin!).
Anyway, in conclusion, a jolly good piece of equipment which fitted first time, unlike the previous one I bought
Cheers,
Nigel
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:29 pm
by corrado
Is there anything in the bar connecting the caliper mounting plate to the forks, as in a rose joint or bearing?
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:11 am
by Fruitjuice
Can you order this as an upgrade for an existing ScootRS discbrake? I can't find anything on their site except complete anti dive disc brake kits...
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:41 am
by soulsurfer
Fruitjuice wrote:Can you order this as an upgrade for an existing ScootRS discbrake? I can't find anything on their site except complete anti dive disc brake kits...
At the moment it's only available to customers who bought direct and then only one per customer

I'd be interested about bushes/bearings on the tie bar too. Is it a bush or bearing on the calliper carrier plate?
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:14 pm
by sideout
soulsurfer wrote:I'd be interested about bushes/bearings on the tie bar too. Is it a bush or bearing on the calliper carrier plate?
Mike,
The caliper plate has a flat link bar attached to the fork clamp. There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.
Cheers,
Nigel
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:36 pm
by soulsurfer
Hi Nigel, pm sent
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:38 am
by scootRS.com
>>a rose joint or bearing?
>>There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.
It's a rose joint actually. Plain bolts/holes would be locked in place and couldn't rotate.
Cheers.
Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:16 am
by dunf
pretty much the same idea. the hinge points do tend to loosen off regularly though, so constant adjustment is required.

Re: Scootrs antidive
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:37 pm
by sideout
scootRS.com wrote:>>a rose joint or bearing?
>>There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.
It's a rose joint actually. Plain bolts/holes would be locked in place and couldn't rotate.
Cheers.
I'm not sure your definition of a Rose joint is the same as mine then. The ScootRS anti-dive kit you sent me didn't include Rose joints, [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_joint] which is an articulated spherical bearing. The kit you sent me contained two fitted, shouldered bolts, not Rose joints actually. These allow the parts to rotate in a single plane, where as a Rose joint would allow rotation in more than one plane.
I am not implying that your brake needs anything more than that which is included in the design. (At least until I've done some stress calcualtions on the parts anyway

)
Regards,
Nigel