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Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:20 am
by mark
cs engineering has been doing this conversion for years (did my mk1 setup).
it is the first thing i ask for now when building a scoot. will try one of the new scootrs when i get a new scoot and better :D

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:49 pm
by sideout
sideout wrote:I fitted the ScootRS Anti-dive on my SX today. I've not finished it yet, but I've got a day off work tomorrow so I'll report back.

I've had the previous version on my GP Mugello for a couple of years, so should be in a good position to make a direct comparison.

I can say that the new one fitted a lot better than the previous non-anti-dive one. For example, the holes in the switch housing lined up with those on the bars :shock: and the wheel seems to sit centrally between the forks without any packing :shock:

No instructions or pictures supplied like it promised in their advert though :roll:

to be continued...........
Ok, I've fitted the disc and taken it out for a few miles. The anti-dive is adjustable depending where you attach the fork clamp. ScootRS recommend 175mm from the bottom of the forks, I set mine at 185mm (did I mention I didn't have any instructions? - more about this later ;) ). Setting it higher like I have means the anti-dive is not as fierce.

It is a definite and noticable improvement on the previous version and I shall be converting my other one as soon as I can!

I had a prompt reply to my complaint about no instructions included, along the lines of "See our help page (Tech Help section) about that; you actually got the instructions the day you ordered :-)" They were right, I actually did. However, it was a link buried in my order confirmation email. My fault I know for not reading my mail properly :o but for the sake of printing 9 sheets of instructions I would be inclined to stick them in the box with the kit after spending $400 with them!

And before any bleeding heart hippy posts about saving the planet by not printing a few sheets of instructions, this was flown halfway around the world after I failed to track one down in the UK (thanks for your efforts on that score Martin!).

Anyway, in conclusion, a jolly good piece of equipment which fitted first time, unlike the previous one I bought :D

Cheers,

Nigel

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:29 pm
by corrado
Is there anything in the bar connecting the caliper mounting plate to the forks, as in a rose joint or bearing?

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:11 am
by Fruitjuice
Can you order this as an upgrade for an existing ScootRS discbrake? I can't find anything on their site except complete anti dive disc brake kits...

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:41 am
by soulsurfer
Fruitjuice wrote:Can you order this as an upgrade for an existing ScootRS discbrake? I can't find anything on their site except complete anti dive disc brake kits...
At the moment it's only available to customers who bought direct and then only one per customer :?
I'd be interested about bushes/bearings on the tie bar too. Is it a bush or bearing on the calliper carrier plate?

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:14 pm
by sideout
soulsurfer wrote:I'd be interested about bushes/bearings on the tie bar too. Is it a bush or bearing on the calliper carrier plate?
Mike,
The caliper plate has a flat link bar attached to the fork clamp. There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.

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Cheers,

Nigel

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:36 pm
by soulsurfer
Hi Nigel, pm sent

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:38 am
by scootRS.com
>>a rose joint or bearing?
>>There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.

It's a rose joint actually. Plain bolts/holes would be locked in place and couldn't rotate.

Cheers.

Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:16 am
by dunf
pretty much the same idea. the hinge points do tend to loosen off regularly though, so constant adjustment is required.

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Re: Scootrs antidive

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:37 pm
by sideout
scootRS.com wrote:>>a rose joint or bearing?
>>There's fitted bolts at both ends, just plain holes, no bushes or bearings.

It's a rose joint actually. Plain bolts/holes would be locked in place and couldn't rotate.

Cheers.
I'm not sure your definition of a Rose joint is the same as mine then. The ScootRS anti-dive kit you sent me didn't include Rose joints, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_joint] which is an articulated spherical bearing. The kit you sent me contained two fitted, shouldered bolts, not Rose joints actually. These allow the parts to rotate in a single plane, where as a Rose joint would allow rotation in more than one plane.

I am not implying that your brake needs anything more than that which is included in the design. (At least until I've done some stress calcualtions on the parts anyway ;))

Regards,

Nigel