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Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:54 pm
by byron
when you fitted it, did it all go together perfectly and without the need for fettling ?
the m/cyl & lever did on mine, I've been using it confidently for over 8000 miles
glad you're not too badly hurt
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:34 pm
by red
How many people have got these fitted?
I'll be checking mine in the morning!!!!
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:45 pm
by Speed Demon
I'll put money on the fact that ScootRS didn't manufacture that lever, and just bought it in.
As far as I'm concerned in this case here's how it should work with a firm in the UK.
The retailer who sent out the part that has failed should be liable because they sold it as part of a kit. If they are a decent firm they should bend over backwards to sort out what was a dangerous failure as much as possible. They should have public liability insurance to cover exactly this sort of issue.
The retailer should then kick up a stink with the firm that sold them the dodgy part and in turn claim against their insurance. And that lever does look poor quality as if it had several other cracks in the casting that the polishing hasn't removed.
How things work in Vietnam is almost certainly slightly different and if the retailer their goes back to the supplier of the lever to reclaim the cost of sorting out a crashed scooter in the UK they are likely to get laughed out of town and told to f@@k off. I'm guessing...
By the grace of god I've yet to hear of anyone who has been killed by failing Vietnamese brake systems, splitting wheel rims, leaking fuel tanks etc. etc. The firms out there sell a lot of stuff and the majority of it works fine but playing the percentage game is cold comfort if you are one of the few who has had a crash as a result of something failing.
You have to wonder what would happen in the event of someone getting killed using this sort of stuff. If it was supplied by a UK firm then they would get taken to the cleaners.
If its a firm in Vietnam though, what would they do about paying off a family who had lost a bread-winner?
Do they even have public liability insurance there, and if so then why don't they pay out in a case like this?
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:54 pm
by sydduckett
Red, the lever comes pre assembled in its housing, so I didnt view it. You may feel this is somewhat neglectful on my part....I suspect few others would begin to take apart a pre assembled front brake lever and housing and if i had im not sure if I would have seen any potential issues. Having said that the hole is to one side, but I may have taken that as being the way its designed as opposed to made by some C***T in an alley in down town saigon.....

Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:00 pm
by sydduckett
Lam, yesh thats right, its only 12 weeks old...Thing that really gets me though is I didnt just go straight on the forums and post the pics. PM,d on here and via the site giving him oppourtunity to sort it out. Was hoping i would be able to come back on line with a bit of praise for a dealer for a change...All i get is sorry did not recieve the pics please send again then silence even after repeated eamils. So now f*** him, i hope he loses loads of busines from this post and when he does raise his his filthy head on this forum im going to cain him..
I just hope he appears at a rally running a stall if hes ever over here. Will let the tosser have it...
As you can see i aint happy.
sef
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:32 pm
by red
sydduckett wrote:Red, the lever comes pre assembled in its housing, so I didnt view it. You may feel this is somewhat neglectful on my part....I suspect few others would begin to take apart a pre assembled front brake lever and housing and if i had im not sure if I would have seen any potential issues. Having said that the hole is to one side, but I may have taken that as being the way its designed as opposed to made by some C***T in an alley in down town saigon.....

I know that they come pre assembled,it's not a part you expect to fail,but then again what can you rely on these days!!
At least you weren't injured,just s**t your self.
Hope you get sorted soon.
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:34 pm
by Supereibar
Shait... and I thought I had a bad day

. Very sorry mate, I am glad you are ok, seriously. Life is too precious, we come to realize it in moments like this.
Best regards,
Jaime
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:21 am
by coaster
Regretably, if all manufacturers were to cary out full R&D on their products and and all dealers had full product/public indemnity insurance cover and only dealt with manufacturs that had similar cover then we might have significantly better quality spares but the price would be so high no one would buy them
Love em or hate em, far eastern imports keep the majority of scooterists on the road, it just a crying shame that they don't make more effort to get things right in the first place

Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:33 am
by mark
sorry to hear this . where did you buy it from ?
Re: ScootRS part nearly killed me!
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:39 am
by Speed Demon
coaster wrote:Regretably, if all manufacturers were to cary out full R&D on their products and and all dealers had full product/public indemnity insurance cover and only dealt with manufacturs that had similar cover then we might have significantly better quality spares but the price would be so high no one would buy them
That doesn't have to be the case. Public liability insurance is just that: insurance. If you don't make a claim then the premiums can remain fairly reasonable. If your products fail regularly and people make lots of claims then the premiums will sky-rocket.
As you said - it's a shame that Viet quality control is not better.