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Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:29 am
by coaster
Monty wrote:Looks like a good price better than the Wassel let us know how you get on. Like the plug, but a bit awkward to dismantle to get the wires out of the mag housing
Looks good but no electrical spec provided, the Wassel is rated at 120 Watts which is more that even the BGM stator puts out so it MIGHT be might be up to the task.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:27 pm
by Meds
I have trawled the Internet looking for ratings for the motorcycle regulator/rectifiers but there is a significant lack of information on nearly all of them, including the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers replacement parts.
So I' m going to take a couple, rig up a test system with a 100w (55w high beam,21w Brake light, 5w back light and 19w to spare ) inductive load and see what happens.
So for the price of a few a pints I can have some fun, light the Christmas tree and possibly find a cheap viable alternative to the wassel or have a couple of interesting paperweights and a bloody good story.
I find it interesting that no one else has done this? As the Internet is awash with cheap regulators and regulator/rectifiers.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:09 pm
by HxPaul
I think its because the wassel is tried and tested and works.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:17 pm
by Meds
Yes, they do but we have a single manufacturer item, which has gone up by 25% in the last year.
If either the supplier runs into trouble/stops making them/has a manufacturing issue then there isn't an alternative, or we end up at the mercy of a load of back street dodgy dealers.
To give you an idea of the issues out there. Swiss automotive 712 is a regulator only, ( cheers coaster) but is advertised by some as a regulator rectifier, the Swiss 750 looks the same but is a regulator rectifier. None of which quote power ratings.
Que the E bay site that starts stating good for 120watts, you blow it up, and the answer comes back, your fault.
Plus I'm bored, need a little project and a few less pints might help my weight.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:50 pm
by coaster
Meds wrote:....................So for the price of a few a pints I can have some fun, light the Christmas tree and possibly find a cheap viable alternative to the wassel or have a couple of interesting paperweights and a bloody good story.
Loving that plan Meds, I've had loads of fun experimenting myself. Had a go at using a cheap bridge rectifier from Maplins controlled by several zenor diodes in parallel......only lasted a couple of hours
Bought some high quality heavy duty coil wire and re-wound the lighting coils on 2 of my stators. No real improvement in output but both have been pretty reliable.
Had a go at running an HID headlamp £5 off ebay) to a Jockeys headlamp unit and WOW, amazing result.
So please do experiment, I'd be very interested in a cheaper alternative as it would be nice to carry a spare or 2
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:50 pm
by Donnie
Meds wrote: Swiss automotive 712 is a regulator only, ( cheers coaster)

Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:34 pm
by Meds
Sorry donnie, I got that bit wrong, so cheers donnie.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:35 pm
by soulsurfer
Oh this takes me back
Interested in the HiD Col... any more details?
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:55 pm
by rainbowrunner
coaster wrote:Meds wrote:....................So for the price of a few a pints I can have some fun, light the Christmas tree and possibly find a cheap viable alternative to the wassel or have a couple of interesting paperweights and a bloody good story.
Loving that plan Meds, I've had loads of fun experimenting myself. Had a go at using a cheap bridge rectifier from Maplins controlled by several zenor diodes in parallel......only lasted a couple of hours
Bought some high quality heavy duty coil wire and re-wound the lighting coils on 2 of my stators. No real improvement in output but both have been pretty reliable.
Had a go at running an HID headlamp £5 off ebay) to a Jockeys headlamp unit and WOW, amazing result.
So please do experiment, I'd be very interested in a cheaper alternative as it would be nice to carry a spare or 2
coaster, there was an article in JET SET a few years ago using a 35 amp 400 w bridge rectifier that i did on my GP, all i wanted to do is convert my brake light and horn to DC, it worked for many years trickle charging the battery , in fact i,m thinking of doing the same on my AC series 2 so i can have a USB charger on my legshield toolbox.
Re: Rectifier/regulator
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:59 am
by Knowledge
Good to see people pushing the envelope by experimenting, but it does seem like a lot of trouble to avoid using a Wassell, even if it does cost a massive £27.50 off eBay.
Inexpensive, reliable, compact, understandable. I can't fault the Wassell set up and use it on all my scooters.