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Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:01 pm
by soulsurfer
soullad wrote:Dread to think what Mikes list would total up in retail value ?
Then factor in the best of each component whether it be NOS Spanish or Italian, remade or modified SIL, upgraded and reworked to make suitable for a high horsepower fast road motor that's gonna last, and you're really in the £1000's

Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:08 pm
by rosscla
Frankly I think your into several thousand if you use only new high quality parts and updated ones.
Corrado I think you need to reset the game and set the rules

Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:23 pm
by corrado
They're not listening Ross, sod it, I'm taking my ball home.

Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:07 am
by TED CRUD
last year my mate was going to buy a full engine and i said why ? ,because you will have to strip it to check its ok .He ended up buying and upgrading a engine block to a bullet proof one and saving money ................
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:21 am
by TED CRUD
Bullet Proof who am i kidding its a lambretta ffs
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:12 am
by rosscla
Ok the idea here was to see if it was possible to build a decent quality standardish motor from a bare casing cheaper than to buy a 'factory' motor from fleabay for about a grand and replace all the sh1te within.
Let's assume the spec will be GP iron, factory etc.
Rules :
Choose one part - must be available
Post the price
Post the source
Update the running total
I'll start you off with the engine casing
200 casing with endplate no engine mounts
£289.95
Scooterotica ( none at restos)
Running total : £289.95
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:41 am
by joespeed
the crankshaft bearing is suspect but will do short none thrash for quite some time,it is far cheaper to buy the stock indian 200cc engine and improve it by putting in a new crank or just a rod kit ,new main and mag bearings,chain and nylon style tensioners,this will be quite a good motor further improvements like rear hub bearing can be changed but is less critical,
buying loose components is not the cheapest way unless your building something quick with lots of special and uprated parts.
good cheap engine will cost around £1300 then after this the skies the limit!
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 am
by LI150
Im building a gp from scratch for the fun of it. Started with a frame and been collecting parts when they come up cheap (ebay, Forums, mates etc)
I have just started on the engine and looked at my options and decided that 200 blocks were to much so bought a Sil 150 casing £40. Then Side casing £10. Had to got a new mag housing £30 of SR. I intend to scrounge beg borrow and use ebay etc for cheaper run of the mill parts and invest my money in a Crank, Clutch and decent Top end but I still see this coming in at around the £1000 to £1200 mark and hopefully I will have a better engine than a Sil 200
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:49 pm
by corrado
rosscla wrote:
200 casing with endplate no engine mounts
£289.95
Scooterotica ( none at restos)
Running total : £289.95
Scootopia engine mounts £30.00
Running total now £319.95.
Next item please.
Re: New SIL engine or build from empty casing?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:58 pm
by DaveTomo
corrado wrote:rosscla wrote:
200 casing with endplate no engine mounts
£289.95
Scooterotica ( none at restos)
Running total : £289.95
Scootopia engine mounts £30.00
Running total now £319.95.
Next item please.
SIL crank with Jap bearing, scooter restos £79.95 ( I take it Martin we're not talking TS1,Super monza type build here)
Running total £399.90