Super Monza Hits 105.6 mph

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Minority wrote:Was the engine in the same specs as at the Scooterotica Shootout?
Charlie told me that the cylinder kit and pipe on the dyno is the same kit available for sale which anyone can buy, its the one Jimmy used to do the endurance race and has done thousands of miles on it at various ride outs, rallys and races. It seems pretty bullet proof so far and has had a LOT of hammer.

Charlie has fitted a diffrenet reed-valve and proto-type ignition unit to this engine, but again, this will be a item which any Super Monza owner can buy and use. The ignition unit was on the bike when i dynoed it at the shoot out. But what (if any) map-changes have been made between now and the 105.6mph run i do not know....but again, i guess these maps are part n parcel of whats to come for the Super Monza customers.

One thing is for sure.....that motor utilities its broad power band VERY well.

Amazing results.
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on a full bodied scooter thats flippin amazing

according to the GPS speedo, I once managed to get up to 83.7 on my GP with a huge long down hill and a tail wind, that was scarey enough, cant begin to imagine what well over 100mph is like
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Was it 1/4 mile standing start or over a flying mile?
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As Tony said, must be very scary doing that speed on 10" wheels :o .
But very impressive.
Just had a thought - if it was a tailwind does that mean it would have been even faster with series 2 bodywork for more wind assistance :lol: (only joking)
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maybe a big baggy flight jacket with arms out wide could have added another 1mph? sailing on scooters :)

but its one hell of an advert and bragging rights for that kit and motor.

just what are the limits? I was chatting with someone a while back that said 100mph on full bodied lambretta just wasnt possible LOL

good advert for tyres too, guessing they rated to 93mph?
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Ian Hepworth wrote:Was it 1/4 mile standing start or over a flying mile?
It was a standing mile. Which feels a looooong way when your wide open on the throttle.
Don't read too much into the tail wind, it didn't offer much assistance, it's the head winds that can be a killer.

I Don't want to crash the Super Monza thread, but show a little love for Eric Cope who hit 104.9mph, sure there will be a separate thread later.
standing mile: 118.6mph
1/4 mile: 14.04 seconds - 93mph
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willwander wrote: I Don't want to crash the Super Monza thread, but show a little love for Eric Cope who hit 104.9mph, sure there will be a separate thread later.
I agree, awesome speeds all round. I have respect for anyone who has the balls to get out there and be part of the action, whether they do 20mph or 120mph. Top action!

I suppose what is intriguing everyone, and why the Super Monza 225 (223) is getting the attention though, is because it's Jimmy's 29bhp vs Eric's 41bhp and the Super Monza is actually putting in better speeds than Eric's RB252 whilst also giving away 29cc! On top of that, the SuperMonza is a commercial kit which has done thousands of miles and countless race/sprint/endurance events......which illustrates that it's not a short lived power burst motor on the brink of disaster (and DONT read that as me implying other motors are, I'm just saying THIS one isn't) and therefore it has day-2-day usability and proven longevity, as does Erics RB i'm told.

Having said that, the above points don't make the SM any better or any worse than another machine....they are ALL to be marvelled at in one way or another. Look at the list of achievements behind bikes like Darrell's Grp 6 winning RB250, Eric's Dyno day 41bhp triumph, Tony O'Briens worlds fastest Vespa, Jimmy Winters speed smashing SuperMonza.....ALL phenomenal bikes in many different ways.

These battles on the Dyno, race track and sprint track are great, and are the basis for previously unheard of BHP and MPH figures. Respect to one and all.

And......if this years figures and results are anything to go by, I can't wait for next years action, there are some very clever people out there with incredibly competitive streaks in them......roll on 2014! :)
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the great thing about competition is that its good for the man in the street, that time and innovation that leads to improvement will filter down and become accessible to us, without people pushing boundaries and limits it all goes stale

Im hoping to get along to a sprint event next year with my bike engined build, if Im allowed to run it then thats great, my problem is living down here its a long way to any meetings, and riding it there, racing it and riding home will always be a little risky LOL
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Very fast and a bit scary on them little wheel, good job!

I'd be interested to know the tall gearing set up. I'm sure it's also a 4 speed and not 5.
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A very impressive performance.
As Tony says.................its tyre speed ratings that will be uppermost in your mind ..............
At the risk of being provocative, there are likely other full bodied scoots that could go over the ton but its having the available space to achieve it.
i.e. anybody achieving high 90's mph, that is, on the 1/4 should be able to go over 100mph on a longer distance with a run up.
Lets not take anything away from James though, its one thing to talk about these speeds, it quite another to enter an event and do it..............
As Mr Wander says, Hello Ian btw, its a long way to have your throttle wound against the stop - you've got to have faith in your motor, your tyres and hopefully keep your underwear clean.

Tonydevon - if its any help both Straightliners and the National Sprint Association run meetings in Devon - Smeatharpe and Weston Zoyland.

Thats all for now folks.
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