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Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:50 am
by dopeshots
[quote][quote="hydra"]Dopeshots,
Maxima MTL 85 is a GL3 Gear Oil, which means it has mild EP additives. These additives offer more protection to mating parts by creating a chemical barrier between Gears etc. As a comparison Rock Oil ST90 is a GL1 oil and as such as no additives other than anti-foam etc. Just to be clear, EP additives do not create Clutch slip. Another GL3 Gear Oil is Castrol's ST90.
And just to finish with a little advertising, Scooterotica, Chiselspeed and MB endorse and sell Maxima Oils.

Cheers, Paul Gillow, Oiltek

Cheers Paul... so what your saying is that if I use a GL3 gearbox oil it should improved everything... what about SX75w90 semi gearbox oils?

Also I have been told u can run muiltigrade oils... is this true?

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:47 am
by soosh
dopeshots wrote:
hydra wrote:
Also I have been told u can run muiltigrade oils... is this true?
I've run muligrade engine oil in my T5 yrs ago as I saw it listed in a book when I was in the motor trade,I'm guessing it will be fine on a Bretta too as can't see why that should be different.

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:52 am
by joeswoonara
why change ? if the usual oil has kept Lambretta gearboxes oils going for fifty odd years it must be doing something right ...........if it ain`t broke and all that ...imho

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:58 am
by dapper
joeswoonara wrote:why change ? if the usual oil has kept Lambretta gearboxes oils going for fifty odd years it must be doing something right ...........if it ain`t broke and all that ...imho
But if oils have been improved in the last 50 years to the extent that they help to eliminate clutch slip and reduce wear on components, why the feck wouldn't you use them :?

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:19 am
by Tom Russell
Doom Patrol wrote:
Tom Russell wrote:I also use Silkolene Medium Gear Oil in my Super Monza motor.
But could I find any the last time I needed some...
Plenty on that well known auction site :)

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:42 pm
by hydra
Hi Dopeshots,
Don't know why anyone would want to run multi grade oils?? But yes 10w/40 or 15w/50 would work ok in a Lambretta, as long as they carry the Jaso MA spec, which is Motorcycle engine oil for use with wet clutches and not 10w/40 car engine oil which as friction modifiers like Molybdenum which isn't any good for a wet clutch. But there is no advantage to using probably a more expensive engine oil as the additional additives are there to clean parts around engine cylinders etc.
The multi grade gear oil will be ok as long as it is GL1,2 or 3 anything above will probably attack silver/bronze parts in your gearbox.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it", Who do you fly with? :o

Cheers, Paul Gillow - Oiltek

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:05 am
by Minority
hydra wrote: The multi grade gear oil will be ok as long as it is GL1,2 or 3 anything above will probably attack silver/bronze parts in your gearbox.

Cheers, Paul Gillow - Oiltek
Thanks for your technical input Paul. Does this mean that Silkolene Medium Gear Oil (GL4) would be marginal for my bronze clutch bushes?

Cheers John

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:45 am
by dopeshots
Cheers Paul and thanks for the info :)

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:03 pm
by shamrockexpress
What about 10/40 multigrade motorcycle oils which are semi-synthetic and fully synthetic?????
Are they also ok or does the synthetic hamper the use in gearboxs/clutches...........
thanx

Re: Modern Gearbox oils

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:43 am
by hydra
Hi Minority,
I would contact Silkolene with regards to your use of their oil, but personally would not go any higher in number than a GL3.

Shamrockexpress, can't see the point in using a multi grade engine oil, though if you want to use them, I can see no problems and no issues with either fully synthetic or semi synthetic as long they specify the Jaso MA for wet clutches