Scooterotica

MNmmmm! taking from scooterboy world...

http://s4.invisionfree.com/ScooterboyWo ... opic=28190

question...Are these the copy of the JL RH pipe ?

reply... No these are the RZ Mk2, an improvement on the RZ Mk1.
The JL rh pipe was copied from the RZ Mk1.
That's what I was told anyway....

you may well be right c*ntspeed, about who copied who...

the rh side and left hand side RZ exhausts were made in the late 90`s very early 00`s and hailed from germany in mild steel - Roller Zentrale - JL may have a hand in them at the time.

Production stopped

the "revolver" is the same more or less but made in the far east (obvious by the cost)

I here call upon my first witness gaz pow'ell...the revolver now! is a Tinny snide...I rest my case!

ive got a SIP EVO 2004 (stamped on the end can, but the same as a jl right hand) me mates got a readspeed jl r-h,(stamped on the tail can) and another lad has a RZ MK1 right hand (rollerzentral) stamped on the tailcan, they all look and go the same to me like! gadge, your right, SNIDE!

I thought they were all the same and all copies of another pipe design anyway :ninja:

you said it was a copy of the jl i merley pointed out that the jl is a copy of the rz no more no less
who gives a f@@k where its made where do you think the jl's are being made last i heard was slovienia as metal costs were low????????

now normally I am against copies... its out of order.. but considering Jl apparently legged it to cz rep with taffy and kegra designs then ripping off the pipe again is ok by me..

tony wrote:now normally I am against copies... its out of order.. but considering Jl apparently legged it to cz rep with taffy and kegra designs then ripping off the pipe again is ok by me..

Hmmmm, all hearsay, 2 sides to every story and all that!
Money was also mentioned (what i have been privvy to) in that a scooter dealer couldn't pay for a large batch of exhausts as well, surely taffy et al could have them reproduced in this country if they were sole heir to the design?
Like i say , 2 sides etc , don't know what the truth is , but seems to be happening a lot nowadays not just exhausts , disc brakes , hubs the list goes on!!

http://vintagescooters.free.fr/tuning/p ... xhaust.htm

The mk1 came out pretty good in these tests. They are branded as RZ mk1 and mk2 in Europe. TSR do a stainless steel one for about £160 on fleabay.

Regardles of who copied who, if it's made in England by fairys who carve it from a block of solid silver or if it's built it in the 80's (......they were the days), 90's or 00's.........

.........getting back to the original question, I have a Revolver (RZ MK II) fitted to my standard non oil injection P200E (and have had it fitted for about a year now, using the scooter daily for work and some long journeys). I am running a 122 main jet and the spark plug looks ok at that, the guy I got it from said I could go up to a 124 main jet, but the 122 looks (and performs) OK.

Hope this helps.