No.......see response below.JohnnyH wrote:Aren't Foxhat a Scooterotica approved tuner?
They don't 'use' us for anything, we were impressed with their work and so publicised it in our 'dealers' section....same way we did with Staurt Owen @ 100mph Lambertta, MB Developments, and many others......thats what the dealers section is for.JohnnyH wrote:Or do they just use you for advertising?
Hyped in what way? We like them and did an advert for them in the dealers section......what would you expect me to do.....write an advert that says: "Yup...big CC, but have no dyno graph so they must be crap" Crikey....i was just trying to do FOXHAT a favour!JohnnyH wrote:Either way, it seems strange that these motors have been hyped so much on here but they won't (or can't) produce a dyno graph.
Suspicious? Dont be rediculous....why would anyone be suspicious? Now if you said people would be interested, or have enquiries.....then yes of course.....but whats to be suspicious about? Its an advert for an engine builder....if you want one....go and see them, make an enquiry, have a look at thier workshop, ride their demonstrator, and make a decision.JohnnyH wrote:You must understand that people will be suspicious about this, especially as you have offered then dyno time and publicised them so much.
Yes, they have been produced....lots of them, for a while now, and as for power....how the f@@k should i know.....i dont have a dyno graph.JohnnyH wrote:Have any of these engines been produced, or did they just not make the power expected?
But.....as has been said many times before, the current owners out on the streets are happy, their machines are bloody rapid, and the demonstrator is a f@@king animal. So.....if you have a genuine enquiry....go see FOXHAT.
Well, actually....no, you are wrong there. There is one very good reason, which is personal to FOXHAT, as to why they dont publisice their stuff, and the second reason is that they already have too much on and under current circumstances could not cope with additional work. That is set to change though, and when it does they will make their own announcement in their own good time.....their agenda and personal circumstances are not to be spliced and diced on a public forum and they dont have to increase their pace or justify anything to anyone. Their customers scooters and their demonstrator speaks for itself.JohnnyH wrote:If they were any good, surely they'd be publicising them on here again to (potentially) hundreds of customers.
And you say that with a straight face? Even though we are not the same business, and publish thier phone number and email address in the advert? So every time i make a post about a new product am i associated with the company in someway, and therefore their new secretary? If thats your logic....then can everyone please now ring Adspeed to order their Chiselspeed retard units.JohnnyH wrote:I know that you've said that your the wrong people to ask, but by publically associating them with your forum/company, you become a point of contact for them and, as such, must expect further enquiries.
If there is nothing to hide?? Like what?JohnnyH wrote:If there is nothing to hide then I'm sure they will be happy to post dyno graphs as most other tuners would do when publically promoting a new product.
Yeah...i've seen it....it doesnt have any numbers on it!!!!JohnnyH wrote:Even AF managed to publish a dyno graph for the RB!
So in summary......Scooterotica is not FOXHAT, and they are not an 'approved' Scooterotica tuner, in the sense that we do not out-source our jobs to them.....we just reccommend them in an advert, as they are good guys to deal with, knowledgable, precise, and build good engines.
Also....i have nothing to hide, they have nothing to hide, and there is no consipracy or X-file out there.
Furthermore......as much as i would like to dyno a FOXHAT 260....i dont have one to do so (as mentioned many times), and so its no use badgering me for something that i dont have, and that is not under my control.
And may i add.....i completely understand the interest in these motors....im as interested as you all are....hence my post and the advert for them, and as with ANY item i post on here.....i do it beacuse its for the benefit of the whole forum to know about whats available out there.
And.......FOXHAT do what they do, they are good at it, and they enjoy it.....but they dont march to the beat of anyone elses drum....and neither do i. So....please take it in good faith that as/when/if i have any info (good or bad)...then i will post it, and if i dont....then i wont, and please be clear.....we run this forum in our own time, and do all the testing at out own expence (eg - recent Mick Abbey cylinder sent out free and scheduled next week for a free dyno session!), and make everything that is our power to do so, as transparent as possible........but some times, some things are a) out of our control and b) there is no reason why FOXHAT or any other company need to post or prove anything at the behest or command/demand of a group of people on a forum that they do not even know.
So take what ever info you get from us in whatever way you chose, please be happy that we provide as much helpful info as we can, when we can, ask as many questions as you want, and if we can help....we will......and please acknowledge that we are just here to help, and circulate info, and are not oblidged to say 'how high?' when a forum member says 'jump'!
For anyone that has not seen the FOXHAT advert in the dealers section, you can review it here: http://scooterotica.org/tempforum/viewt ... ?f=12&t=19
And if anyone wants to ask FOXHAT any questions, here are their contact details: Contact Art or Al by email: alalx@tiscali.co.uk or Tel: 07970 198314