Dono wrote:Title = The Super Monza exposed. to Quote tony = The barrel is the same spec as Jimmy Winters 105.6 mph motor!!!tony wrote:Hi Steve.
Firstly it's not mine. I photographed it at least 6 months ago for an advert.
Yes it's an ultimate kit. The barrel is the same spec as Jimmy Winters 105.6 mph motor. Jimmy had the large carb (34 dellorto)option and the various manifolds available can be seen.
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Can someone tell me did the "Super Monza" or the "Ultimate Super Monza" 30 bhp hit 105.6mph ? there seems to be some miss quoting here!! Did the "super monza" crack the Ton or the "Ultimate Super Monza". And what is the difference between the two kits, please don't tell me the only difference between the two is a 34 dellorto.
Well as we are talking about what the super monza is etc i dont mind clarifying a few things.
The barrel, porting and crank and exhaust on the super monza that went down the strip is the same as the guys like myself and soulsurfer are running.
When you buy this kit you can opt for the kit as it comes in straight from manufacture in Italy with the gaskets and fittings that are included as standard or you can go for the "works" kit which is using fixings and gaskets that Charlie recommends and Charlie also personally blue prints the kit to make sure port timings etc are to his original design as due to manufacture/casting sometimes this can make one kit differ to the other slightly.....this is true for any kit on the market or any standard manufactured machine.
Everyone i know that runs an SM has gone for the works kit as it only works out about a hundred or so extra pounds.
You then have a choice of exhaust.....the Italian made one that comes in from Tino or the hand made expansion that Charlie produces which is dearer.
Again everyone i know that runs an SM has gone for Charlies exhaust.
You can choose between a phbh 30 mm carb or a Vhsh 30mm (VHSH preferred) or if you like you can go for a 34mm now. As far as i am aware it is just the manifolds that are different that attach to the reed block.
Recommend gearing for the road is a TV200 box with standard 15/46 sprockets giving a final drive ratio of 4.4 or if you feel wealthy you can get a brand new box designed for the SM.
There has now been the development of a programmable ignition with the SM in mind.
Right so in short on the scoot that went up the strip ....barrel is the same, porting the same, exhaust the same, crank the same, it had the 34mm carb on but most of us run a 30mm option. It also had the new programmable ignition. These are the differences.
It was dyno'd at the scooterotica shoot out with said 34mm and programmable ignition on and made approx 30bhp.
So there you have it.
On a sprint day, ALL the competitors will play with their gearing and jetting to achieve higher top speeds so it was running higher gearing and the power jet turned down for optimum power.
Thats it as far as i am aware.