Name change- British Lambretta Owners Association Club

[eden]

Anyone with half a brain who knew the full story of what lead up to my ban would I'm sure see that I was stitched up like a kipper.

Why don't you feel free to tell us on here?

I'm sure no one would be bothered to read all of the correspondence I have as it is very very long spanning about 6 months.
I have been contemplating putting it all on my Lambretta images website totally uncut for a while now but I feel most people saw what went on at the time and those that didn't see through the deceit at the time won't be able to now unless I also add a breakdown of what is really going on in each exchange.
Maybe one day i will, but not right now. If i published it now it would just be seen that i had published it in some way relating to BLOAgate so would be futile. Also I was privy to many things that they didn't know I knew about at the time or even now, publishing all the info including info that was past on to me by people from other national clubs would mean exposing friends who told me things in confidence, that's just not something I feel is worth doing, I would rather the people with their heads in the sand carried on believing the LCGB line as what they think of me doesnt bother me enough to loose real mates over.The more they discredit me and deny what happened the more egg they will have on their faces if and when I do publish it all.
I'm still hoping in vein that they will do the right thing but it's very very doubtful the.LCGB committee will ever admit to doing any wrong in any instance.

One way I could publicise it would be to write a paperback novel with everyone's names and positions changed with a disclaimer at the start something like this
"Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental."

But then if I did that, everything could be denied.

[Nic]

There are many fascinating arguments and analogies being outlined here.

Ultimately, however, it doesn't matter one bit what we think. In the opinion of a barrister who specialises in this area of the law the LCGB has a pretty much unanswerable case for the retention of a copyright assigned to it.

Based on this advice, the Club committee is preparing to take legal action in pursuit of its case. I don't see the LCGB committee blinking on this one.

It may be that GF has received legal advice himself. If so we'll see this advice tested in court. Unless, of course, he enters into meaningful talks with the Club. It would save all sides money. Although, of course, were GF to lose, the LCGB could ask for its costs to be awarded against him.

If I were him I'd talk. After all, what has he got to lose?

[Steveshipley]

There are many fascinating arguments and analogies being outlined here.

Ultimately, however, it doesn't matter one bit what we think. In the opinion of a barrister who specialises in this area of the law the LCGB has a pretty much unanswerable case for the retention of a copyright assigned to it.

Based on this advice, the Club committee is preparing to take legal action in pursuit of its case. I don't see the LCGB committee blinking on this one.

It may be that GF has received legal advice himself. If so we'll see this advice tested in court. Unless, of course, he enters into meaningful talks with the Club. It would save all sides money. Although, of course, were GF to lose, the LCGB could ask for its costs to be awarded against him.

If I were him I'd talk. After all, what has he got to lose?

I'm getting pissed off now. so how come you are privy to that information whilst I as an "ordinary" member of lcgb am not ??

[wintermod65]

i have to say to be fair to mr frankland moving to " british lambretta owners club " should be seen as a step in the right direction , the BLOC Logo is a bit MK-BLOAesque but if thats work in progress or subject to behind the scenes negotiation it could be things are moving to a point where both sides can live with things
it doesnt seem so different from the vespa owners club / vespa club of britain existing together. so heres hoping collateral damage will be kept to a minimum

[Muppet]

There are many fascinating arguments and analogies being outlined here.

Ultimately, however, it doesn't matter one bit what we think. In the opinion of a barrister who specialises in this area of the law the LCGB has a pretty much unanswerable case for the retention of a copyright assigned to it.

Based on this advice, the Club committee is preparing to take legal action in pursuit of its case. I don't see the LCGB committee blinking on this one.

It may be that GF has received legal advice himself. If so we'll see this advice tested in court. Unless, of course, he enters into meaningful talks with the Club. It would save all sides money. Although, of course, were GF to lose, the LCGB could ask for its costs to be awarded against him.

If I were him I'd talk. After all, what has he got to lose?

I'm getting pissed off now. so how come you are privy to that information whilst I as an "ordinary" member of lcgb am not ??

copied from LCGB forum
“Today we had a meeting with our Barrister; a plan has been agreed and legal action is about to start.”.

The LCGB Committee

[Steveshipley]

Ultimately, however, it doesn't matter one bit what we think. In the opinion of a barrister who specialises in this area of the law the LCGB has a pretty much unanswerable case for the retention of a copyright assigned to it.

Based on this advice, the Club committee is preparing to take legal action in pursuit of its case. I don't see the LCGB committee blinking on this one.

yeah, I read that.!! but it doesn't talk about a Barrister opinion does it.

[Nic]

i have to say to be fair to mr frankland moving to " british lambretta owners club " should be seen as a step in the right direction , the BLOC Logo is a bit MK-BLOAesque but if thats work in progress or subject to behind the scenes negotiation it could be things are moving to a point where both sides can live with things
it doesnt seem so different from the vespa owners club / vespa club of britain existing together. so heres hoping collateral damage will be kept to a minimum

I hate to disagree with someone who has defended the LCGB so resolutely in the past few weeks, but my view is that - if a settlement is reached, and that's a big if - any change of name completely avoids the potential for confusion with the BLOA name. Ultimately, what GF and many of those around him say they want is a club that does different things. If so, the name is the least important part...

[Nic]

Ultimately, however, it doesn't matter one bit what we think. In the opinion of a barrister who specialises in this area of the law the LCGB has a pretty much unanswerable case for the retention of a copyright assigned to it.

Based on this advice, the Club committee is preparing to take legal action in pursuit of its case. I don't see the LCGB committee blinking on this one.

yeah, I read that.!! but it doesn't talk about a Barrister opinion does it.

I think it's fairly safe that if they went to talk to a barrister, at the end of which they decided that legal proceedings could begin, it wasn't done after a conversation about the terrible weather we've been having recently.

What else do you think they were talking about if it doesn't include advice?

[timexit17]

To be fair, any specialist knowledge about what a likely court outcome will produce will be run past a barrister at some point if you're serious about it ending up in court as a real possibility.

Only a barrister would know what the sort of scenario & outcomes is likely to be in the real world/present day.
I've been through 3 or 4 similar discussions myself -they always involved a barrister.

[Steveshipley]

your suggestion the lcgb has an unanswerable case. is that fact or your view???