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GTFOMWSC
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:25 pm

Burnside wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:00 pm
GTFOMWSC wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:36 pm
Timbo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 am
But are people buying 125’s because they haven’t passed their test?
No other reason to buy one if you've passed your test there's no way you'd want to be on a 125.Passing your test would prevent all this but doing so is so costly these days It's an easier option to buy a ts1 reg as a 125 as in reality who is going to roadside check you.I haven't been stopped in years on any scoot be it my P2,DR166 or any of my lammy 230's any plod nowadays wouldn't have a clue so why actually bother passing the test in any case.
Cost me just under £300 to pass my test, saved more than that by not having to do CBTs, insurance, etc. since. I just don't buy that it's cheaper to keep doing CBTs than to pass your test.
Depends in which decade you took it i took mine 5 years ago and didn't get much change out of £800 and you could only use the training companys vehicle,now as its become compulsory to take 1 cbt at least with 1 lesson,1 theory,1 part 1 with 2 lessons,1 main test with 2 lessons and a day course.I took the biggest bike test not the 2 lesser cc ones so it could theoretically be cheaper if you took one of those not sure.
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:48 pm

I did mine 15 years ago before I started riding again. It’s a pretty easy test. If I had been riding illegally for some time and use to the roads and traffic I would guess you dont need more than a couple of lessons.

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Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:26 pm

I took my test in 1966.I cant remember how much it was but it lasted 30 minutes and I passed first time,mind you so did everyone else it was so easy.

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Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:33 pm

GTFOMWSC wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:36 pm
Timbo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 am
But are people buying 125’s because they haven’t passed their test?
No other reason to buy one if you've passed your test there's no way you'd want to be on a 125.Passing your test would prevent all this but doing so is so costly these days It's an easier option to buy a ts1 reg as a 125 as in reality who is going to roadside check you.I haven't been stopped in years on any scoot be it my P2,DR166 or any of my lammy 230's any plod nowadays wouldn't have a clue so why actually bother passing the test in any case.
As has already been said,if you have an accident and they check the engine,you stuffed.

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Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:05 pm

HxPaul wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:33 pm
GTFOMWSC wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:36 pm
Timbo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 am
But are people buying 125’s because they haven’t passed their test?
No other reason to buy one if you've passed your test there's no way you'd want to be on a 125.Passing your test would prevent all this but doing so is so costly these days It's an easier option to buy a ts1 reg as a 125 as in reality who is going to roadside check you.I haven't been stopped in years on any scoot be it my P2,DR166 or any of my lammy 230's any plod nowadays wouldn't have a clue so why actually bother passing the test in any case.
As has already been said,if you have an accident and they check the engine,you stuffed.
yep you're right and i declare everything on my insurance all engine mods the lot just in case i'm not spending 2-3k on an engine to be screwed over on the insurance.Luckely Daz at Classic line knows every one of my scoots so fills in everything correctly.None of my scoots are illegally registered with bigger engines in them than on the docs it just isn't worth it.
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:09 pm

Timbo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:48 pm
I did mine 15 years ago before I started riding again. It’s a pretty easy test. If I had been riding illegally for some time and use to the roads and traffic I would guess you dont need more than a couple of lessons.
Don't think you any choice now with all the new restrictions (even newer ones this year too)you have to have a determined set of lessons now so costs are higher offputting a lot and sending them down the illegal route. Just hope none of the illegal ones hit my scoot with there only on paper insurance.
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 pm

Ooh didn’t know that....

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Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:22 pm

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Ooh didn’t know that....
yep and they're making the test tougher which isn't a bad thing really,found it pretty easy myself its basic common sense took it on a 650cc bike which was crap tbh but only way i was getting the higher bike license.
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Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:55 pm

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Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:22 pm

yep and they're making the test tougher which isn't a bad thing really,found it pretty easy myself its basic common sense took it on a 650cc bike which was crap tbh but only way i was getting the higher bike license.
Did mine on an LML.... :oops:

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Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:39 am

GTFOMWSC wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:25 pm
Burnside wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:00 pm
GTFOMWSC wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:36 pm


No other reason to buy one if you've passed your test there's no way you'd want to be on a 125.Passing your test would prevent all this but doing so is so costly these days It's an easier option to buy a ts1 reg as a 125 as in reality who is going to roadside check you.I haven't been stopped in years on any scoot be it my P2,DR166 or any of my lammy 230's any plod nowadays wouldn't have a clue so why actually bother passing the test in any case.
Cost me just under £300 to pass my test, saved more than that by not having to do CBTs, insurance, etc. since. I just don't buy that it's cheaper to keep doing CBTs than to pass your test.
Depends in which decade you took it i took mine 5 years ago and didn't get much change out of £800 and you could only use the training companys vehicle,now as its become compulsory to take 1 cbt at least with 1 lesson,1 theory,1 part 1 with 2 lessons,1 main test with 2 lessons and a day course.I took the biggest bike test not the 2 lesser cc ones so it could theoretically be cheaper if you took one of those not sure.
6 years ago for me, so that test was pretty much format as it is now, theory test, Mod1 and Mod2. I went down to the training center, they knew I had been riding for many years and so took me out for a quick ride on one of their motorbikes to assess how much training they thought I needed (for free) to pass my test. The outcome was 1 day training which included 1/2 day at the test center to practice the Mod1 part, then straight into my tests. So this totaled 2 days including the 2 tests (1 day training, 2 half days for the tests) which was £200 plus the cost of the tests.

Anyone who has been riding a number of years should not need to splash out on a full training course, especially those that consider themselves as great riders as many who have numerous CBTs under their belts do. 1 day training to get used to the bike and Mod1 course and do the tests.

For the record their is no compulsory minimum number of lessons, any riding school that tells you that is pulling a fast one. I asked a friend of mine who happens to own a riding school and he confirmed this, they recommend a minimum of 2 days training for people who have little experience but just the 1 day as they did for me for experienced riders just to get familiar with the bike and the Mod1 test.

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