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Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:25 am
by drunkmunkey6969
Darrell Taylor wrote:glad to hear its worked well for you
i like the full bodied class(is that a class or a gentlemens agreement)

im a bit lost with it all and feel there should be a common set of rules in the various sports
at the moment if you build a race scoot or sprinter its eligibility changes whereever you go or so it seems
i believe but may be wrong there are lots of different rules,ive not checked for a while

scooter shootout
below 200 above 200 road legal or road legal capable but anything goes so in reality this years could have had a cutdown with a cr250 top end racing against full bodied std ts1,s

sprint records meetings
various classes and sets a pretty good standard

100mph scooter
not sure on current rules are they correct as per the website

X RACE
not sure on rules is it as per scooter shootout

BSSO
if building for bsso only rules are well established although if you take it to a sprint meeting some meets cover bsso machines but these machines dont always fall in line with the various sprint meets rules

how frustrating is this you build a scoot and wanna try it at different events to find its eligibility is all over the place
im in the process of building a scoot and im gonna have to read all 4 to check what can / cant be done then may need to change parts or set ups depending on where it goes

i think the safe choice is build to records meeting rules but for that i think the fully cut down scoots are classed as motorcycles ?????

what do you think

What the f@@k are you p1551ing and moaning about ? LMFAO! With 50bhp does your 'class' really matter?

Did Harry Barlow not ring you to discuss rules n regs?

Get your customers beast on the tarmac, we know its a 'done deal' already if you have 50bhp Darrell....no point ruffling feathers on the regs at this point.....

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:28 pm
by Darrell Taylor
drunkmunkey6969 wrote:
Darrell Taylor wrote:glad to hear its worked well for you
i like the full bodied class(is that a class or a gentlemens agreement)

im a bit lost with it all and feel there should be a common set of rules in the various sports
at the moment if you build a race scoot or sprinter its eligibility changes whereever you go or so it seems
i believe but may be wrong there are lots of different rules,ive not checked for a while

scooter shootout
below 200 above 200 road legal or road legal capable but anything goes so in reality this years could have had a cutdown with a cr250 top end racing against full bodied std ts1,s

sprint records meetings
various classes and sets a pretty good standard

100mph scooter
not sure on current rules are they correct as per the website

X RACE
not sure on rules is it as per scooter shootout

BSSO
if building for bsso only rules are well established although if you take it to a sprint meeting some meets cover bsso machines but these machines dont always fall in line with the various sprint meets rules

how frustrating is this you build a scoot and wanna try it at different events to find its eligibility is all over the place
im in the process of building a scoot and im gonna have to read all 4 to check what can / cant be done then may need to change parts or set ups depending on where it goes

i think the safe choice is build to records meeting rules but for that i think the fully cut down scoots are classed as motorcycles ?????

what do you think

What the f@@k are you p1551ing and moaning about ? LMFAO! With 50bhp does your 'class' really matter?

Did Harry Barlow not ring you to discuss rules n regs?

Get your customers beast on the tarmac, we know its a 'done deal' already if you have 50bhp Darrell....no point ruffling feathers on the regs at this point.....


youll have to add a smiley or an angry face cause i cant work out the tone of your comments?

i posted the above comments in october ???????

the very points covered in the post are fundamentally what harry is currently working on to try and achieve a merger of rules n regs across the board so machines competing in all sports can carry over easily in an attempt to increase numbers and create a fair set of rules

the scooter shootout as an example could have seen a cut down sprinter with a 300cc motorcross top end with a full aero package with a number plate and electric horn fitted with its owner stating "yes it will pass an mot but i havent got one" and producing a sorn certificate ,he could enter it alongside a full bodied lambretta in the same class ,no one capitalized on the rules loophole but it existed and one day someone could but that wouldnt be sporting so a major tidy up is needed and believe harry barlow is putting some great work,time and effort in to try and achieve this for the good of the sport

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:51 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
Sorry....my poor attempt at humour, and flattery of sorts I guess. Badly worded. Just saying....with 50 horses you'll win just about every class! Lol :grin:

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:33 pm
by Darrell Taylor
50 horses is miles away yet but a nice target to aim for , every 1 hp over 40 is very hard to find especially with self imposed restrictions of no welding
weight and aero are worth much more than the available power

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:30 pm
by fairspares
drunkmunkey6969 wrote:
fairspares wrote:Image


Is this your sprint motor?
now you two have stopped bitching :o , il reply.
This was my 2010 sprint barrel work done by Ben @ AF but was running piston port and produced same power 28bhp but more peaky , i got Ben to convert it to reed and was going to use as a road engine but im now building another full frame sprinter so this barrel is now being developed for sprinting again by myself , Ben and px Tony . keeping it reed valved, but now 60mm stroke, mrb non-cowling head, and altered timings .
Heard the news that Harry Barlow wants to get involved with straightliners/sprinting , il be at the agm next saturday to see how it goes.

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:49 pm
by Muppet
fairspares wrote:
drunkmunkey6969 wrote:
fairspares wrote:Image


Is this your sprint motor?
now you two have stopped bitching :o , il reply.
This was my 2010 sprint barrel work done by Ben @ AF but was running piston port and produced same power 28bhp but more peaky , i got Ben to convert it to reed and was going to use as a road engine but im now building another full frame sprinter so this barrel is now being developed for sprinting again by myself , Ben and px Tony . keeping it reed valved, but now 60mm stroke, mrb non-cowling head, and altered timings .
Heard the news that Harry Barlow wants to get involved with straightliners/sprinting , il be at the agm next saturday to see how it goes.
on y Winpep graph what smoothing is the graph line set to 1-4 ?

muppet,

Re: race rapido 225

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:19 pm
by fairspares
give me a clue and il try and help . im not that clued up on how they work or what the operators do to fiddle the figures. will this be on the graph info somewhere.