Steady tiger... factually and professionally you are in and I am emotionally out.Meds wrote:Standard tactic
When presented with facts that cannot or are unable to be disputed
Deflect the debate and make it personal
Why did you turn it off Jonzo172
Employment
Professional Engineer who has to make decisions based on facts and evidence.
Present options and opinion , then back it up with said evidence and facts.
The people I work for and answer to ask awkward questions like
'What's your evidence that it's safe'/best solution "
and my favourite
"What are the risks involved with options."
To be honest I never read that paper/guidance /best practice advice / expert opinion isn't much of an answer.
Note the use of professional, which means when confronted with something I don't understand or can't get to grips with I seek out information from Experts.
I entered this with an attitude of Stay but was open minded enough that I would vote leave if a good enough case was made.
Opinion
This isn't a debate is some entrenched opinions backing ther position up with dogma.
I haven't heard one practical solution from Brexit on
How they will deal with immigration
What the return of Sovereignty will practically entail and how it will benefit Britain
How trade will be conducted
Why the EU is undemocratic, when we elect and appoint euro MP's, if you accept this as fact, the next logical step, our parliament is Undemocratic, we don't need it any more.
The whole leave argument is emotional, not fact or evidence based.
When I started my business 13 years ago I remortgaged my house to finance it, factually the scenario didn't really stack up, emotionally (gut instinct) it did.
The one thing I was one hundred percent confident about was my ability to see beyond and overcome any challenge that may come my way.
I feel the same way about the EU.