The Super Monza exposed.

[Adam_Winstone]

4.4 as 4-speed

Currently 4.6 as 5-speed but only because I didn't have the sprockets for 4.2. Now got the sprockets so will change out over Xmas

[Dono]

Was it a tuned Monza or was it a proper super monza that was set up properly as they are completely different. You can prove this by telling us which number kit it was as they are all marked.

Rest my case [/quote]

You said you have owned a super monza and an RB and you know what they are both like.
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I said I owned a super dooper monza now the question is - have you rode a TT engine ? I will put my RB up against any Super Monza any day of the Week - Not to confuse the CE engine that did a 100mph here that one I will race if it goes on a dyno and straigh on the track from the dyno that read 30bhp - But any other super monza up for a race ? Next

[soulsurfer]

You said you have owned a super monza and an RB and you know what they are both like.

I said I owned a super dooper monza now the question is - have you rode a TT engine ? I will put my RB up against any Super Monza any day of the Week - Not to confuse the CE engine that did a 100mph here that one I will race if it goes on a dyno and straigh on the track from the dyno that read 30bhp - But any other super monza up for a race ? Next

This is what you said... which you edited this afternoon and removed after it was pointed out...

How quick some people forget I had a Super Doope Monza cheers Jon, having been one of the only people to own & ride both machines you would think I would be allowed my ten minutes

Which implies that you may have been confused as to what the the Super Monza is that's being discussed on this thread, and have stated before (maybe on Facebook) but now it appears you're not one of the few to have owned or ridden both bikes as you boldly stated earlier???

So my question to you is have you owned or ridden a Super Monza as you have stated on a number of occasions?

[nelson pk]

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I said I owned a super dooper monza now the question is - have you rode a TT engine ? I will put my RB up against any Super Monza any day of the Week - Not to confuse the CE engine that did a 100mph here that one I will race if it goes on a dyno and straigh on the track from the dyno that read 30bhp - But any other super monza up for a race ? Next [/quote]

No, you actually boldly stated that you had ridden a super monza and a tuned RB and you have now edited it to say dooper in the middle to suit your own arguement.

I would take you up on your offer of a race but you would probably EDIT the official result

[Dono]

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I said I owned a super dooper monza now the question is - have you rode a TT engine ? I will put my RB up against any Super Monza any day of the Week - Not to confuse the CE engine that did a 100mph here that one I will race if it goes on a dyno and straigh on the track from the dyno that read 30bhp - But any other super monza up for a race ? Next [/quote]

No, you actually boldly stated that you had ridden a super monza and a tuned RB and you have now edited it to say dooper in the middle to suit your own arguement.

I would take you up on your offer of a race but you would probably EDIT the official result [/quote]

Wrong again Jon actually first called my Monza a Quote SUPER MONZA but because CE didn't build it I called it a Super Dooper Monza because it was the fastest Monza in the UK at the time built for speed. Lets not try and wriggle out the back door on who owned or ridden what here!!!
A 6k super monza is a very expensive 27bhp road going rally scooter it was NEVER made for speed and was never designed to keep up with a Tuned TS1 or RB Fact so stop trying to impress me with the name SUPER MONZA.
Sell me the scooter as a reliable plodder and you have my attention.
Someone claimed on here the Super Monza was an off the shelf kit and we now have established it's not off the shelf at ALL that was a lie.
And now we are getting close to finding out more facts about how a claimed 30bhp made 105mph and lets not foreget the .6mph hey?
This was a publicity stunt gone wrong big time. I was at Elvington last year and the Jimmy's SUPER MONZA did nothing to impress me at all. I'm sorry if this is blunt and to the point but I will race any Road going SUPER MONZA that has a dyno to show its a SUPER MONZA off the shelf .

[fairspares]

just give some clarity to my assumption that there was a timing error take a look at these "flyer speed" results from the scooter shootout in September , i borrowed AFs rb that produces around 30 bhp my lambretta is full bodied but mostly fibreglass and about 25kgs less than a full metal lambretta, this is into approx 5 mph headwind, the only odd one out is Erics lambretta that really should have performed better and been nearer the 100mph mark.

Superstreet Lambretta over 210cc
2 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.8 93.5 94.8 92.6 93.2 93.1 92.8
3 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.5 93.1 93.6 94.5
200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.1 89.9 90.3 92.5 94.1 89.2 91.4
227 Eric Cope Lambretta 250cc 94.0 86.6 91.4 89.1 81.1 94.0
1 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 93.5 93.5 93.0 92.6 93.1 91.8 93.2
255 Ian Campbell Lambretta 240cc 89.7 85.4 87.1 89.7
226 Neville John Lambretta SSS 250cc 88.5 83.4 85.8 88.5 87.5
Pro Street Geared Scooters
1 516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 100.8 100.2 99.3 99.4 100.8 99.4 99.2
2 516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 100.5 100.5 99.4
516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 99.6 95.4 95.1 95.5 95.2 99.4 99.6
531 Shaun Fairhead Lambretta AF RB 250 94.1 92.6 94.1 93.8 93.1 92.3 92.4
1 531 Shaun Fairhead Lambretta AF RB 250 93.0 93.0 92.8

[soulsurfer]

Oh dear Dono, you are clearly confused ...!

[nelson pk]

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I said I owned a super dooper monza now the question is - have you rode a TT engine ? I will put my RB up against any Super Monza any day of the Week - Not to confuse the CE engine that did a 100mph here that one I will race if it goes on a dyno and straigh on the track from the dyno that read 30bhp - But any other super monza up for a race ? Next

No, you actually boldly stated that you had ridden a super monza and a tuned RB and you have now edited it to say dooper in the middle to suit your own arguement.

I would take you up on your offer of a race but you would probably EDIT the official result [/quote]

Wrong again Jon actually first called my Monza a Quote SUPER MONZA but because CE didn't build it I called it a Super Dooper Monza because it was the fastest Monza in the UK at the time built for speed. Lets not try and wriggle out the back door on who owned or ridden what here!!!
A 6k super monza is a very expensive 27bhp road going rally scooter it was NEVER made for speed and was never designed to keep up with a Tuned TS1 or RB Fact so stop trying to impress me with the name SUPER MONZA.
Sell me the scooter as a reliable plodder and you have my attention.
Someone claimed on here the Super Monza was an off the shelf kit and we now have established it's not off the shelf at ALL that was a lie.
And now we are getting close to finding out more facts about how a claimed 30bhp made 105mph and lets not foreget the .6mph hey?
This was a publicity stunt gone wrong big time. I was at Elvington last year and the Jimmy's SUPER MONZA did nothing to impress me at all. I'm sorry if this is blunt and to the point but I will race any Road going SUPER MONZA that has a dyno to show its a SUPER MONZA off the shelf .[/quote]




There is no lieing.....it is an off the shelf kit
Do you not run an electronic kit on your lammy, expansion pipe, better crank, bigger carb and you've also had it tuned!
Dont tell me you have the standard pipe and an SIL crank and 22mm carb on your RB? And if it isnt tuned i would race you any day because it'll completely trounce a standard RB.
The SM is checked and blueprinted and not tuned, it runs an expansion, electronic and better crank.........

Edit here Also where are you getting 6k from

[bazman]

You're confused , i'm confused , my dads bigger than your dad, mongtastic outburst from scooter mongs , love it , lets get to 30 pages xx

[nelson pk]

just give some clarity to my assumption that there was a timing error take a look at these "flyer speed" results from the scooter shootout in September , i borrowed AFs rb that produces around 30 bhp my lambretta is full bodied but mostly fibreglass and about 25kgs less than a full metal lambretta, this is into approx 5 mph headwind, the only odd one out is Erics lambretta that really should have performed better and been nearer the 100mph mark.

Superstreet Lambretta over 210cc
2 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.8 93.5 94.8 92.6 93.2 93.1 92.8
3 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.5 93.1 93.6 94.5
200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 94.1 89.9 90.3 92.5 94.1 89.2 91.4
227 Eric Cope Lambretta 250cc 94.0 86.6 91.4 89.1 81.1 94.0
1 200 James Winter Lambretta 225cc 93.5 93.5 93.0 92.6 93.1 91.8 93.2
255 Ian Campbell Lambretta 240cc 89.7 85.4 87.1 89.7
226 Neville John Lambretta SSS 250cc 88.5 83.4 85.8 88.5 87.5
Pro Street Geared Scooters
1 516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 100.8 100.2 99.3 99.4 100.8 99.4 99.2
2 516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 100.5 100.5 99.4
516 Martin Murray Vespa 50 Special 99.6 95.4 95.1 95.5 95.2 99.4 99.6
531 Shaun Fairhead Lambretta AF RB 250 94.1 92.6 94.1 93.8 93.1 92.3 92.4
1 531 Shaun Fairhead Lambretta AF RB 250 93.0 93.0 92.8

Ummmmmm.......what does this prove? With the greatest respect the SM beat it again here.........
How can you not say that the SM could do better either. I understand wher you are coming from but in my opinion that proves only one thing.....

Seperate question.....Was the one you were on a 250cc as well?